Susan WeilBy Magdalene Perez
Published: March 29, 2006
Despite her long, prolific and accomplished career, Weil’s work has seldom garnered the recognition it deserves. In the past, her talent was often overshadowed by the fame of contemporaries, not least of all by her former husband Robert Rauschenberg, whom she met while studying at the Académie Julian in Paris. In 1948 Weil attended Black Mountain College, then one of the most vital centers of artistic activity in the United States. Rauschenberg followed her there, and later the two moved to New York, where they shared in the explosive emergence of the New York arts scene in the 1950s along with friends like de Kooning, Kline, Tworkov and Pollock. She spoke to Magdalene Perez at the Sundaram Tagore Gallery in New York, where her retrospective Now and Then is currently on view. As an artist, you’ve never been afraid of experimenting, have you? Whether you’re taking your paintings into the third dimension and exploring space or … Growing up in art in the 1950s when Abstract Expressionism was kind of blowing all the rules, it gave you a sense of possibility: You didn’t have to be hemmed in by a square or something. You could really make these things move. At Black Mountain College, where we [visual artists] shared our thoughts with poets and people in music, you could learn to sort of lose the tight rules of painting. My work can be a cross between painting and sculpture or it can move out from the walls. Over the course of your career, you’ve never felt a need to stick to any certain discipline or style. But how would you characterize some of the aesthetic constants in your work? I always thought of my work as leaning toward sculpture. It’s a passion of mine to not have a still picture but to have it involved with movement and time. Certainly the world was different for me in the 1950s and ’60s than it is now. But there are certain elements in my work that are pretty constant. I grew up on an island, so the horizon was a very powerful element to me, the sea and the sky. You were a student at Académie Julian in the 1940s, where some of the most important artists of the last 150 years have studied. How important was that time on your development as an artist? Paris was a marvelous thing. I mean, I was eighteen! But Julian was restrictive [in its teaching methods]. You know—a model stood there for a week for you to draw [laughs]. So your work really began to develop after moving to Black Mountain? At Black Mountain, [painting director] [Josef] Albers was himself another kind of academy. He came from the Bauhaus and he had a way of teaching art and a way of teaching color and drawing, and you couldn’t go exploring. He’d say, “When you’re in school, you’re not an artist, you’re a student.” Then he was very freethinking when people became artists after their schooling and went on their own journeys. It sounds like Black Mountain was an incredible place for artists at the time. It was wonderful to be a part of this whole community that involved artists and writers and musicians. You didn’t feel like it was just the tip of your paintbrush; it was this whole creative world. You and Robert Rauschenberg were there together. Talk about some of the collaborative work you did with him. We did a number of things together. The most well-known one is the Blueprints series [life-sized silhouettes captured on photo-sensitive blueprint paper with the help of a lamp], and we did a couple of other things. But my best collaboration with Bob is my son Christopher [the well-known photographer]. He’s my favorite collaboration. He’s a great kid… kid, he’s now he’s in his 50s.
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